I always framed a lot of the decisions made at the Council of Nicea regarding the bible books as akin to a looooong extended JWs elders meeting, where decisions are arbitrary and random as hell and rife with a lotta personal politics and agendas.
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False Christians chose the modern Bible books
by lifeisgood inone of the issues that i discovered when i took two years off from the jws to just study the bible is the contents of the modern bible do not even come close to matching the contents of the holy books that the first christians used.
not even close.
off by over 550 books.. now, the jws claim that the catholic church is false religion.
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Is the bible plaigiarized from Sumerian/Egyptian texts?
by Black Man ini haven't had the opportunity to research this deeply, but i've heard many critics/scholars assert that the bible is nothing more than plaigiarisms from ancient sumerian/edyptian texts (which i can definitely believe).
those texts have flood legends, genesis account, and various other stories that make their appearance in the bible.
i'd love to go into this rabbit hole and hope some of the scholarly minds here on jwn will guide me to some info on this.
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I haven't had the opportunity to research this deeply, but I've heard many critics/scholars assert that the bible is nothing more than plaigiarisms from ancient Sumerian/Edyptian texts (which I can definitely believe). Those texts have flood legends, genesis account, and various other stories that make their appearance in the bible. I'd love to go into this rabbit hole and hope some of the scholarly minds here on JWN will guide me to some info on this. What say you JWN?
Thanks in advance! Love this net thang and the opportunity to expand my mind!!
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What proof is there that Jesus chose the Bible Students in 1919?
by VM44 inwhat proof is there that jesus inspected all the religions or the earth in 1919 and then chose the bible students?.
just because the watchtower says in its literature that they were chosen is not proof!.
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Good thread! This goes UP!
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False Christians chose the modern Bible books
by lifeisgood inone of the issues that i discovered when i took two years off from the jws to just study the bible is the contents of the modern bible do not even come close to matching the contents of the holy books that the first christians used.
not even close.
off by over 550 books.. now, the jws claim that the catholic church is false religion.
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Wow! Great thread! And the rabbit holes gets deeper! I knew there had been excluded bible books. Didn't know they numbered 600. I've always felt that its was IRONIC that the Catholic Church chose which books would make up the bible, but JWs regard them as part of Babylon the Great. Great irony, indeed!
I guess my only thing with these other books is this - I contend that the bible is made up of fictional stories. Do these lost books continue to perpetuate the fictional stories? Are any of them grounded in real history and historical records?
Wonderful thread and this goes UP! Hope some more of the top minds here on JWN chime in on this one!
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Tax Exempt status - is there a way to get JWs to lose it?
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Black Man
Informative link, Blondie. Thanks!!
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Looking for former bethelite with initials M&M...
by darth frosty ini was at bethel from 94-96 the person i am looking for came about 95-96 he left to get married 8/96.
i have heard he dis associated and hope he is on jwn.
if you read my bio you will know who i am (hint we went to the same hall.
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Black Man
Yeah, still looking 4 him 2.............
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Univeral sovernty
by darth frosty ini was reading a thread about how the universe with its billions of galaxies and stars, is basically on hold while we wait for this lil issue of universal sovernty to be solved.
then i got to thinking, even if armegedon came this year and wiped satan out...we still have to wait on his appeal.
when you think about it the thousand year reign is essentially satan sitting on death row waiting while his lawyers work out and exhaust his appeal options.
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Black Man
Good thread! It's something Satan gets to 'appeal' his sentence, but what about those billions who will supposedly be slaughtered at Armageddon? Seems like a warped sense of justice.
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What Is A Cult? Recognizing And Avoiding Unhealthy Groups
by 3Mozzies injayanti tamm author, 'cartwheels in a sari: a memoir of growing up cult'.
what is a cult?
recognizing and avoiding unhealthy groups.
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Very, very good thread!
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Did Jehovah destroy millions with a flood in Noah's day?
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jesus seemed to believe in the story of noah's flood.
i wonder if god really drowned millions of people like the bible says for simply eating and drinking and not taking any note?
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Wonderful thread - this goes up!
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DEBUNKING BIBLE MIRACLES: Joshua telling the sun to stand still
by Black Man inso, i'd love to start some threads debunking biblical miracles as the fairytale fiction that they are.
the first i'd like to start off with is jehovah supposedly making the sun stand still to allow joshua's army enough daylight to conquer the amorites.
here's a quote sentex.net explaining why this would be completely impossible:.
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So, I'd love to start some threads debunking biblical miracles as the fairytale fiction that they are. The first I'd like to start off with is Jehovah supposedly making the sun stand still to allow Joshua's army enough daylight to conquer the Amorites. Here's a quote sentex.net explaining why this would be completely impossible:
http://www.sentex.net/~tcc/joshua.htm
For the earth to suddenly stop rotating would certainly involve a major miracle. It violates the principle of conservation of angular momentum of rotating bodies, a fundamental law. The kinetic energy of a rotating body like the earth cannot just disappear; it must continue to exist; the energy needed somewhere to go. Clearly a miracle is needed, if the earth's rotation stopped, and then began again.
The earth's diameter is several kilometers greater at the equator, than at the poles, because of the effects of rotation. What would maintain the equatorial bulge, if rotation stopped?
The moon, also, cannot simply stop in its orbit; it would fall towards the earth. So a miracle was involved, to keep the moon up when it stopped, and for it to resume its orbital motion.
The ocean waters have momentum, and if the earth's crust beneath them suddenly stopped, the waters of the oceans would overflow the eastern coasts of the continents, in mighty tidal waves traveling hundreds of km per hour. This would be a catastrophe probably greater in scale than even the world wide flood of Noah's time! Similar flooding on the western coasts would likely occur when rotation resumed. But geologic evidence for such events has not been found.
The atmosphere has momentum, and if the earth's crust suddenly stopped, winds of hundreds of km per hour would cause devastation around the earth, but such drastic events do not appear to have happened, so miracles must be invoked by those who believe the story of Joshua's long day, to prevent all the widespread destruction.
For the ocean waters to remain in the ocean basins would requite the miraculous suspension of the law of inertia that applies to every particle in the oceans. Similarly, if the earth's atmosphere did not keep revolving eastward when the earth stopped, countless miracles are needed; one for every single molecule of air!